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Old 30-06-06, 03:04 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Hi Wizkid,


Don't think only from 1 side. For companies, if not we, some one else will do the same work for same salary. So, they are not bothered about anything. If you ask more logical reasoning, only answer they say is, they are not competant enough to get job. So, they are not eligible for it. It may be not be logical from our perspective. But it is, from their perspective.


I know a few of my collegues who were fired. But after firing, they settled in good companies with better pay that what our company use to pay.


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Old 30-06-06, 03:23 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Hi Krishna,

How this can be justified, if a company is firing an employee on the resons u said "they are not competant enough to get job", then how r they selected into that company, is there is any loop holes int eh companies selection process....


and if a fired person can get a into a better company with better salary then there is no strength in saying that"they are not competant enough to get job"....



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and also one thing person gets the job on his skills (but company dont
knw he is fake,but they fell he can suit for the job).....but after
checking if the company come to knw he kept fake they'll fire tht
person......

means r they seeing only exp overhere or they not seeing the skills of
tht person......this is my major doubt....how come companies 1st
selects ppl by checking the skills & if they come to knw he is fake
they'll fire y cant they think tht person hvng enough skills to suit
the job......


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Hi Wizkid and Spoorthi,
One standard answer for everything is, COMPANY POLICY. Every company will follow them what ever may be the case. If anyone do not complie with them, they have full rights to remove that employee. Actually if anyone joins with fake experice, companies can file a cheating case agianst them and can send him/her behind bar. But, nocomapny has done it till now. This is just because they are very liberal in this kind of issues and they understand us better as the HR is also from India.... don't forget this fact


NOTE : But, as the number of cases increased recently, WIPRO started filing civil cases against the members who were found recently. The count is more than 10 now.



let me answer Spoorthi's question. Are there any loop holes selection process?


Yes. There are. Analysing the person just with in 30 mins or in 1hr is very difficult. Many times people go wrong.Also,interviewers are not trained enough in judging the people. So, they often do mistakes.


If a company fires a person saying he is not competant enough, it means he does not fit in their company or in the team in which he is working. It does not mean he is not capable of doing anything.


For eg. if a person who is interested in dev joins a testing team (what ever may be the reason behind) then obviosly he will not perform well. But, he get what he want, he will out perform...


It is a very big discussion that will keep going on. I too understand the feelings of people and how they feel if they did not get job even though they have very good knowledge. There are many times when I said to my friends and relatives that it is very difficult to get job as a fresher. And then no other way remains except going ahead with fake..... But, we should not forget the other side of the coin. We should develop the habit of observing both sides.


In my experinece, what I understood is, companies gives value to experience than your ability. Atleast upto 80% importance even though not 100%.


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Post Re: FIRING AND SECURED IT COMPANIES

You are right , what is the position of those guys who have not secured the position in an IT company. I accept this type of problem raises to many people, But it is essential to realize that Only big companies are looking and firing guys. There is no need of joining in an MNC company, they can search in small companies or group of people take a room and place systems and work seriously(at most 8 hours per day).Conduct seminars , discussions etc . IT is not compulsory to work in IT industry, there are wide variety of jobs were having outside , think big and chose better then IT career. IT is for those guys who want to work like machines in life and produce results(as like machinery) That's why they take these many precautions to recruit them.

We should not think about them, instead better what we are , how much we can demand each company for our efforts.


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Hi spoorthi,


its ok that companies r firing to keep away fake exp.., then just think like this, a person who did his graduation in 2004 and still did not have any exp(no job) and trying to get into any company..then what is the genuine way for him to get a job............





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Re: FIRING AND SECURED IT COMPANIES

Hi All ,
firing now a days not only depend on their previous exp....They are waching the performance of the employee every quarter/cycle ..
most of the companies end of the day says that u r performance is not good and u r skills are not meeting our expectations..
But companies are telling this type of reasons at end of the day only..
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Re: FIRING AND SECURED IT COMPANIES

Hi

Tell me about EDS .. is EDS is nice company?

how will be the life?


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